The complaints about the endorsement system remind me of Churchill's famous comment about democracy.
There are two alternatives in other states. One: No endorsement system. Which results in primary races where the person with the most money wins, and engages people primarily through TV ads. Two: Party endorsement systems that resemble the old "smoke-filled rooms" of yore. In Massachusetts, delegations from local townships show up controlled by a local mayor or legislator, and vote for their allies in brokered arrangements.
There's no perfect process. That's just a liberal delusion.
I'll just add, I think that when people talk about how badly they think the process is flawed, and how it needs "reform," what they really mean is that the candidate they liked didn't get endorsed. I saw a lot of that in 2002, after Moe got the nod over Dutcher. I associate myself with rahelio's comments. If you didn't like that result, you should have been trying to get to the convention and persuading others at the convention to vote for Dutcher. But too many people would rather just whine and mewl and call people idiots and feel superior instead.
The most legitimate criticism of the system I've heard is that the people who show up at the caucuses are the same people over and over again, who make their decisions on the basis of scars from past battles, or develop big egos they expect the candidates to constantly stroke. The solution to that is showing up yourself, and encouraging other fresh blood to do it. Perhaps the DFL could spend some more money on outreach on that than they do. But I don't think some wholesale reform is necessary.
I like the 25% solution. Anything but Melendez striking out at people like Jen Mattson, Ember R-Y, Mike Erlandson and others who put their time in for the DFL and then get scolded. Not a way to build a party.
And what do you do when you discover a flawed candidacy and the convention has already endorsed? Kudos to all those who have stood for election without the endorsement: Chris Coleman, Mark Dayton, Mike Hatch, Rudy Perpich, George Latimer, Mike Freeman, Skip HHH, Ted Mondale, Jim Oberstar, R.T. Rybak, Bob Mattson, Doug Johnson, Mike Ciresi, Mike Erlandson, and on and on and on and on. And if we banned everyone who ever supported an unendorsed candidate we wouldn't have anyone left in the party. Not a realistic position for a progressive party.
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The complaints about the endorsement system remind me of Churchill's famous comment about democracy.
There are two alternatives in other states. One: No endorsement system. Which results in primary races where the person with the most money wins, and engages people primarily through TV ads.
Two: Party endorsement systems that resemble the old "smoke-filled rooms" of yore. In Massachusetts, delegations from local townships show up controlled by a local mayor or legislator, and vote for their allies in brokered arrangements.
There's no perfect process. That's just a liberal delusion.
I'll just add, I think that when people talk about how badly they think the process is flawed, and how it needs "reform," what they really mean is that the candidate they liked didn't get endorsed. I saw a lot of that in 2002, after Moe got the nod over Dutcher. I associate myself with rahelio's comments. If you didn't like that result, you should have been trying to get to the convention and persuading others at the convention to vote for Dutcher. But too many people would rather just whine and mewl and call people idiots and feel superior instead.
The most legitimate criticism of the system I've heard is that the people who show up at the caucuses are the same people over and over again, who make their decisions on the basis of scars from past battles, or develop big egos they expect the candidates to constantly stroke. The solution to that is showing up yourself, and encouraging other fresh blood to do it. Perhaps the DFL could spend some more money on outreach on that than they do. But I don't think some wholesale reform is necessary.
I like the 25% solution. Anything but Melendez striking out at people like Jen Mattson, Ember R-Y, Mike Erlandson and others who put their time in for the DFL and then get scolded. Not a way to build a party.
And what do you do when you discover a flawed candidacy and the convention has already endorsed? Kudos to all those who have stood for election without the endorsement: Chris Coleman, Mark Dayton, Mike Hatch, Rudy Perpich, George Latimer, Mike Freeman, Skip HHH, Ted Mondale, Jim Oberstar, R.T. Rybak, Bob Mattson, Doug Johnson, Mike Ciresi, Mike Erlandson, and on and on and on and on. And if we banned everyone who ever supported an unendorsed candidate we wouldn't have anyone left in the party. Not a realistic position for a progressive party.
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